Zubeida Jaffer and Liz McGregor write:
As conference draws to a close, Trevor
Manuel says he is a satisfied man. Delegates have given significant support for the implementation of the National
Development Plan, especially in localized ways. Nevertheless, he wants to raise the bar. “We
have to keep improving,” he said. “We have to get better at what we do.”
Manuel may no longer be on the NEC but, in
a wide-ranging interview with WhatsUpANC, it was clear that he remains invested
heart and soul in his country and his party. The activist spirit that has propelled him throughout
his adult life remains undiminished.
Looking tired but relaxed in a crisp white
linen shirt, jeans and leather loafers, Manuel said his decision not to avail
himself for the NEC had not gone down well with some of his
colleagues. He, however, thought it was important for older comrades to step
aside and make space for a younger layer of leaders. “I want to have the time to mentor younger leaders,” he said.
He was pleased about the growth in
membership to over one million but not happy about the lack of
attention to quality. “At Polokwane, we committed to raising the economic literacy
of our members but have not done much of that,” he said.
At Manguang, conference decided to
implement a ten year programme of education for members. This will be one of
the tasks the new NEC will have to deal with immediately.
Equally important was a commitment to
rigorous accountability.
“When we leave here on Thursday, we have to ask whether or
not we have a firm framework for accountability. For example when Minister of
Economic Development, Ebrahim Patel, goes back to his job in government next
week, what form will this accountability take? How is he accountable to the
movement to which he owes his government position? How is he accountable to
Parliament, the centre of accountability?”
The president’s announcement that school
inspectors would be introduced also speaks to issues of ensuring
accountability. “The president announced this in his speech. There will be no
further argument. This will be implemented.”
He saw progress in certain areas, especially in the health sector.
“We have definitely improved, partly because we have learnt
from past mistakes and we have a competent, dynamic minister in Aaron
Motsoaledi.”
Manuel spoke about his commitment to the
ANC. It had always been amazingly good to him, he said. “In 1991, I was part of
a cohort plucked out of obscurity. We were young when we were drawn
into the negotiating team. I was 35. Valli Moosa and Cheryl Carolus
were 34. Sydney Mufamadi was 32. Three years later, I became a minister. So
there was a trust in us and an affording of opportunity.”
Manuel says he wants to do the same for a
younger generation.
“I think it’s very important that we bring young
people through. Not all of them will be ready, groomed and perfect but we must
give them the opportunity. If they
stumble, we must support them. We have to ensure they have the correct ethics
and values.
It was important that those elected to the new
NEC understand clearly that they were making a big commitment. “They will have
to accept there will be no weekends or holidays for five years,” he said.
There was also a need for those who had
served on the NEC to realize that they should not hang around and wait to be
ejected. “The regeneration of leadership is a crucial task for the
organization,” he said.
A further challenge was to create policy
consistency in the government. It was a problem if policies chopped and changed
with every new incumbent. “We cannot afford to start afresh every time someone
new comes into a position. This happens too often.”
At times, delegates had insufficient information
at conference to make informed policy decisions. For example, a Polokwane
resolution committed the government to paying 75% of the SABC budget without
stipulating targets. “Some with particular agendas can also load a commission
and obtain the outcome they want. A minister then finds him or herself obliged
to implement it.”
Each conference brought new lessons. After the dramatic events at Polokwane
and the subsequent recall of President Thabo Mbeki, he decided it was the
principled thing to do to tender his resignation and allow the new president to
decide whether or not he would like him on his team. “All of us serve at the
prerogative of the president and we have to make it possible for him to
assemble his team.”
Principled practices must predominate. “Comrade Kgalema’s resignation
and his speech from the floor was an example of proper conduct. He was gracious
in defeat.”
Ministerial jobs were not for life. “If we
leave people in positions for too long, the person becomes inseparable from the
position in the minds of the public and the market.”
It was important to build up a strong
skills base among a new generation of leaders to whom the baton could be handed. “When we first came into
government, many of us at the time had strong backgrounds in reading and
writing. This was a practice
widely encouraged in the movement,” he said.
There was not the same conscientiousness
now. This was reflected in weak skills in the public service, an issue discussed at conference.
“We have to set the bar higher so that
ministers, mayors and councilors can receive quality advice.”
He was concerned that a deterioration in
the public service contributed to a relationship with the private sector based
on favours. “Our economy is not what it should be,” he said.
Some of this could be blamed on poor
education but socio-economic conditions were also part of it. As a former student and current
chancellor of the Cape Peninsula University of Technology (CPUT), he could
observe at close quarters what factors affected the prospects of graduates.
“I see these youngsters coming through and
their grades in engineering, say, are very good. They pass maths and applied
maths. They however do not have
the same confidence as students who have grown up surrounded by books and conversation, who
invariably find it easier to shine in interviews. The disadvantaged students battle to find jobs.”
This same discrepancy in social capital
applied to schools. “Just over 60%
of our schools are no-fee. And whether you are at a top performing state school
like Westerford or the poorest performing school in Khayalitsha, the per capita
contribution from the state is the same.
But at the higher-performing schools, you have active parents on the
governing body who raise funds so that the school can employ more teachers. The
kids’ performance is then accelerated and so the class differences remain.”
He raised some of these issues when he
presented the National Development Plan to the conference plenary. Improving
education would have to be one of the priorities.
Manuel refused to be pushed on where he saw
himself after the next general election in 2014. “The question is academic,” he
said. “I am a bit long in the tooth now. I am not sure that I will be able to
run around all over like I used to,” he said, chuckling. “I will probably not do
any one thing but a host of different things."
Reflecting on the possibilities of the 2014
election, he commented that people tended to vote in ways they felt comfortable
with. “We cannot know with any certainty but all our numbers have grown,” he
said. “Voters are loyal and influenced by class and race.”
He hoped that South Africans will talk
together in the new year.
“What the National Planning Commission says
is that we must create the space to talk about our issues. It’s not about slinging mud and apportioning blame.
It’s about putting all of this on the table for everyone to discuss – not just
the government but the community as well.”
Life includes perfections and imperfections.
Both were on display at Mangaung. “Our future is under construction,” he concluded.
